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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
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May 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
Michael Pachla: From Babs to Byls, the Buffalo coaching saga continues The Buffalo Sabres are ready to hire Dan Bylsma, but Pittsburgh is throwing a bit of a monkey-wrench into the situation
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
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May 28 @ 1:24 PM ET
Get ready for the pile on in 3..2..1
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
Michael Pachla: From Babs to Byls, the Buffalo coaching saga continues
The Buffalo Sabres are ready to hire Dan Bylsma, but Pittsburgh is throwing a bit of a monkey-wrench into the situation

- Michael Pachla

Whether you like it or not thems the rules Mike.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
I need the rule defined
The Don
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Glasgow, VA
Joined: 02.03.2007

May 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Whether you like it or not thems the rules Mike.
- Cptmjl

Dumb rule, but like you said, it is the rule.

However, how anyone should expect compensation for a fired employee is beyond me.

Then again, pro sports doesn't operate like any other business.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Dumb rule, but like you said, it is the rule.

However, how anyone should expect compensation for a fired employee is beyond me.

Then again, pro sports doesn't operate like any other business.

- The Don


that's the whole point...he's not employed by the penguins...it's not a leave of absence or a demotion or anything like that...he was canned...and happened to get a severance package

*shrugs*
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
Dumb rule, but like you said, it is the rule.

However, how anyone should expect compensation for a fired employee is beyond me.

Then again, pro sports doesn't operate like any other business.

- The Don

Somebody on your thread the other day said that Pitts wouldn't demand a pick. I disagreed saying they were desperate for draft picks. I think pretty much any team would demand compensation if they were in their shoes. Why wouldn't they?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 28 @ 1:36 PM ET
You guys will get a 3rd when someone hires Nolan
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

May 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
According to Garth:

Buffalo: Bylsma & Sutter
Pittsburgh: 21st overall

dumb.

Pitt should get a very minimal pick in my opinion.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
You guys will get a 3rd when someone hires Nolan
- Feds91Stammer

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
According to Garth:

Buffalo: Bylsma & Sutter
Pittsburgh: 21st overall

dumb.

Pitt should get a very minimal pick in my opinion.

- thatsapickle

Sutter blows. Garth is completely out of his (frank)ing mind.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
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May 28 @ 1:39 PM ET
Somebody on your thread the other day said that Pitts wouldn't demand a pick. I disagreed saying they were desperate for draft picks. I think pretty much any team would demand compensation if they were in their shoes. Why wouldn't they?
- Cptmjl


because bylsma's no longer employed by the Pittsburgh organization and the fact that it isn't buffalo's problem that the pens were desperate for draft picks...

screw them...they'll take a 2017 seventh rounder and like it
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

May 28 @ 1:41 PM ET
Sutter blows. Garth is completely out of his (frank)ing mind.
- Cptmjl



No denying it.

Why would anyone want Sutter? It was one of the many terrible moves by Shero.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

May 28 @ 1:42 PM ET
sounds like a 2016 3rd.

its cool.

we have 4 of those....
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 28 @ 1:42 PM ET
Well they got Derrick Pouliot and Brian Dumoulin and a plug for Staal. Not a terrible haul for what Staal brings.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

May 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
Somebody on your thread the other day said that Pitts wouldn't demand a pick. I disagreed saying they were desperate for draft picks. I think pretty much any team would demand compensation if they were in their shoes. Why wouldn't they?
- Cptmjl



Because you fired the employee.

You still have to pay said employee.

Once hired by another you no longer need to pay said terminated employee.

No compensation should be required.

Babcock was still under contract. Totally different scenario.
buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

May 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
because bylsma's no longer employed by the Pittsburgh organization and the fact that it isn't buffalo's problem that the pens were desperate for draft picks...

screw them...they'll take a 2017 seventh rounder and like it

- Michael Pachla


A team that fired their coach but still under contract absolutely should not get the same compensation for a coach/gm that willingly left the organization. NHL screwed this rule up it should have been more detailed. IMO ridiculous if the Sabres have to give up a 3rd but whatever.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
sounds like a 2016 3rd.

its cool.

we have 4 of those....

- battelmt



THe thing that is the hiccup according to some peeps on Twitter is that if Buffalo dealt Pitt their own 3rd rounder and not one of the other 3 that they would not be able to offer sheet anyone without it.

So it could be that Buffalo is looking to offer sheet someone which is awesome for TM to have the balls to do that because there are some VERY good RFAs out there.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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May 28 @ 1:47 PM ET
A team that fired their coach but still under contract absolutely should not get the same compensation for a coach/gm that willingly left the organization. NHL screwed this rule up it should have been more detailed. IMO ridiculous if the Sabres have to give up a 3rd but whatever.
- buffalokb


I'm pretty sure the entire world is against this rule and I'm willing to bet the rule is refined to coaches/gms actively under contract and have not been fired or "let go" and will be a free agent come that July 1st.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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May 28 @ 1:48 PM ET
THe thing that is the hiccup according to some peeps on Twitter is that if Buffalo dealt Pitt their own 3rd rounder and not one of the other 3 that they would not be able to offer sheet anyone without it.

So it could be that Buffalo is looking to offer sheet someone which is awesome for TM to have the balls to do that because there are some VERY good RFAs out there.

- JVince11


It's simple speculation and nothing else. Offer sheets are so rare, but it'd be pretty cool to see Murray try. He'd be the king of no (frank)s, (frank) you.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 28 @ 1:49 PM ET
because bylsma's no longer employed by the Pittsburgh organization and the fact that it isn't buffalo's problem that the pens were desperate for draft picks...

screw them...they'll take a 2017 seventh rounder and like it

- Michael Pachla

If a team has the option to do so why wouldn't they get that draft pick? Especially when it's coming from a team they're competing with in the same conference. It doesn't matter whether it's not Buffalo's problem or not those are the rules and the Pens are within the rules doing so. They'd be stupid not too.

Bob McKenzie ✔@TSNBobMcKenzie
If PIT doesn't demand comp for Bylsma, how long before PIT gets roasted in its market for not collecting compensation that is available.
11:50 AM - 28 May 2015
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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May 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/bylsma-...his-track-record-1.293813

reed
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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May 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
If a team has the option to do so why wouldn't they get that draft pick? Especially when it's coming from a team they're competing with in the same conference. It doesn't matter whether it's not Buffalo's problem or not those are the rules and the Pens are within the rules doing so. They'd be stupid not too.
- Cptmjl


I don't think that's really the argument here Cap. We know why they'd want to, and I don't think we blame them for trying, we would too. It's just a stupid (frank)ing rule that shouldn't exist, like prohibition or not being able to drive with a moose in your car in september past 6 pm in Wyoming.
fakechows33
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May 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 28 @ 1:52 PM ET
I'm pretty sure the entire world is against this rule and I'm willing to bet the rule is refined to coaches/gms actively under contract and have not been fired or "let go" and will be a free agent come that July 1st.
- TheSabresTaco


Why didn't they demand compensation for Shero? Isn't it the same thing? Weren't they still paying him as well? If I were Buffalo, that would be my argument to the league. If we have to give up something for Bylsma, then NJ should have to give up something for Shero.
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